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It is times like these that remind me how very, very much I love fandom. This has been moving pretty fast, but there have definitely been some developments. Most of these developments have been in the Fuck You Delicious We Are Leaving area, but there are also developments on the Del front. (Putting this together took me back to my newsletter days, which were pre-Delicious and awful. Guess what! STILL AWFUL.)

[x] AVOS has put up a beta site status blog that they plan to update regularly with "the latest on our progress resolving bugs, migration issues and feature requests."
[x] they fixed the password reset bug, so if you were having problems with that, give it another shot
[x] they fixed slashes, and "other special characters." I have not done any testing to determine which special characters are now supported, but I'm guessing that the comma and the period and the colon are not among them. Does anyone know? ETA: according to comments, the period, ampersand, exclamation point, and a few symbols are now working. Still not sure about the comma or the colon.
[x] phrase searches are now possible again
[x] they fixed the date stamp on your bookmarks export, which was the bug that was fucking up everyone's saved-on dates when they imported their bookmarks into another service
[x] they are planning to re-implement tag bundles, fixing the browser extensions, and adding more links to each page
[x] they posted api documentation
[x] good article on where the new del went wrong, not that anyone here needs to be told.

[x] Check this amazing response out when someone asks them to stop arbitrarily making sex-related links private. (It's an old response, but...)
[x] That said, in the comments of my last post, a few of you were discussing this. Not everyone has had their links privatized, but some people have, I don't think anyone from Diigo has clarified, and it's hard to know what is happening. I'm going to quote effervescent, though: "My concern at this point is that really, fandom shouldn't be trying to work around an algorithm that may or may not make links inaccessible, but concentrate on finding a service where this isn't a concern at all."
[x] delicious-fandom group on diigo, for reconnecting.

[x] Maciej (a person I think I actually know IRL -- I'm not certain, but how many link-loving devs named Maciej can there be?) asked on twitter for a list of features we would be interested in. There is a collaborative googledoc happening that is full of great stuff, and Maciej is responding to a lot of it. It's only been a few hours, so it's very definitely in-progress, but it's worth reading through and adding some stuff. There is a little bit more about it here.
[x] While we are discussing Pinboard: the howto, the FAQ, and 10 features you might not know about
[x] oxymoron wrote a tutorial for adding a pinboard sidebar to firefox

Own the Fucking Servers, And Other Fannish Stuffs
[x] kronos999's post from yesterday (jesus, was it just yesterday?) mentions what I am just going to call fic.titio.us and includes a call for volunteers.
[x] kaigo, an information architect, has issued a call for requirements for such a thing
[x] rageprufrock and mklutz, in the latest /report are also discussing a fannish delicious. Much of that is also taking place on twitter; following @slashreport might be a good bet if you want to stay on top of things.
[x] googledoc spreadsheet to keep track of who people are, and where, in case of name changes and splintering.
[x] some discussion on ao3/otw bookmarking stuff is happening on this DW and on the OTW blog. Includes a link to the list of 21 features/improvements that have been suggested for their bookmarking system.
[x] brownbetty posted instructions for exporting your del bookmarks, even if your account has been deleted. She recommends doing this quickly, because it takes advantage of a loophole that they might notice at some point.
[x] a new delicious stack about how new delicious sucks, by acari. Genius!
[x] if you have a newsletter script that is broken, let murklins know over here, or shoot her an email so that planning can begin.

murklins and I are not responding to as many comments as we'd like to be because we have irritating day jobs, but please do keep leaving links and thoughts and complaints in the comments.


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Sep. 29th, 2011 08:05 am (UTC)
The period and the colon seem to be working for me, though in the case of a colon I got an error a couple of times (for the same tag) before it worked. I guess things are still shaky on that front. Exclamation marks still don't work. Don't know about other special characters. Oh, and when I click at my rating:PG tag, I'm also getting bookmarks tagged with rating:PG-13.
Sep. 29th, 2011 09:26 am (UTC)
It looks like there's now a Pinboard LJ comm too: http://pinboard.livejournal.com/ - this one and that one should be friends! :)
Sep. 29th, 2011 10:33 am (UTC)
Google bookmarks has set up a "import delicious bookmarks" option. It keeps tags (or labels) and you can make lists which look shareable. It's not ideal but as an interim if you don't want to pay for pinboard it might help.
Sep. 29th, 2011 12:48 pm (UTC)
My special characters are all working now. The exclamation mark (!), ampersand (&), period (.), and of course the pairing slash (/) are now all just fine. Even my symbols like the heart (♥) and triangle (▲) returned results. Granted, it's not yet all results but it is at least working. Though commas will most likely never work as before, since they now use them as tag separators so they can support multiword tags.

With the promised return of the essentials features like bundles and tag subscriptions coming back shortly, frankly I'm a lot less worried than I was even yesterday. I'll probably still get a Pinboard just because, but if things are getting fixed then I'm a lot less likely to abandon ship on Delicious. They obviously just released this new launch WAY before it was ready. I'm going to have faith that things will be better in the next few days/weeks.
Sep. 29th, 2011 02:34 pm (UTC)
Yes, same. Though I did open a pinboard account as a back-up and I must say I'm a tiny bit in love.
Sep. 29th, 2011 06:16 pm (UTC)
The exclamation mark still isn't working for me.
Sep. 29th, 2011 06:28 pm (UTC)
Maybe it just needs time to, idk, pervade the whole site? My tags with colons in them weren't working an hour ago, but are fine now. I double-checked my other characters just in case and they are all still functional too, including the exclamation marks.
Sep. 29th, 2011 06:51 pm (UTC)
My network is back. Nothing in it, but it exists again.
Sep. 29th, 2011 07:13 pm (UTC)
when i visit my network page it behaves like 'network' is an account and my username is a tag it doesn't have. what does your page look like?
Sep. 29th, 2011 08:25 pm (UTC)
The same. But present, at least. Weird but moving in the right direction.
Sep. 29th, 2011 08:26 pm (UTC)
They changed the url/name. Network is now following.


Mine only shows 20, and you can't view anyone past that first 20 (just like you couldn't with bookmarks yesterday). It's only a list of names, rather than an aggregation of your networks bookmarks. That means that if you want to check out what your network...er, who you're "following"...bookmarked, they you have to do so one-by-one. :P
Sep. 30th, 2011 01:51 am (UTC)
no, following is a new function (like your list of following on twitter) not a "changed" version of network (which is more like your home page on twitter).

until today http://www.delicious.com/network/[username] came up as a 404. today it behaves differently and this is a discussion about the relationship between their plans to restore networks and what this behaviour means.
Sep. 30th, 2011 03:40 am (UTC)
It's possible that just some random person registered the username "network". I'm not sure it means anything. :(
Sep. 29th, 2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
does "reimplement" bundles just mean that we can make them again, or that we'll get back the data for our (in some cases) 6 years of work curating thousands of links into bundles? because frankly i'm a lot angrier about losing my work/facing the idea of having to completely manually redesign my bundles from scratch without any reference to my previous system* than the possbility of actualy having to use delicious without bundles.

*even if del is a lost cause for future functionality and i move permanently to pinboard, without access to at least a list of my bundles and their contents i have this problem and frnakly i will never again in my life have the spare time required to recreate what i had
Sep. 29th, 2011 08:08 pm (UTC)
The Delicious Beta Status blog says that they have "retained all data" about tag bundles and networks and subscriptions, so hopefully no re-building will be needed. Just gotta wait and see if they come back on their own. ::crosses fingers::
Sep. 30th, 2011 01:51 am (UTC)
i can't even tell you how relieved i am to know that the data still exists. thank you!
Sep. 30th, 2011 02:58 am (UTC)
Nearly all of my tags have a colon, and that does seem to work.

Parentheses do not, and I am annoyed, because about half of my tags use those.
Sep. 30th, 2011 03:41 am (UTC)
It's nice that they added links to additional pages of tags in a list but it doesn't seem to always work. In particular, when I'm looking at a list of combined tags. For example, I can view:


but if I click on the "2" at the bottom of the page to see additional links I get nothing.
Sep. 30th, 2011 03:43 am (UTC)
Now I see what's going wrong - it's trying to go to:


and it should be:


Perhaps related to their fix for the "/" and other special characters? Minor but still annoying.
Oct. 1st, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
The good news is that you can now view all your tags, and the special characters are fixed. Unfortunately I can't seem to view all the tags of another user, it still only lists the most recent and that's it. And a minor annoyance - when you click on a username, it takes you directly to their stacks. You can click the "links" tab to get to their bookmarks, no big deal, but it's still annoying because most people haven't created any stacks yet so it's just a blank page.

The beta blog promises the return of most of the old features, so I guess I'll be patient.
Oct. 2nd, 2011 11:29 pm (UTC)
I'm not getting 404'd with special characters, but I'm still being told I have no bookmarks with the period, double period, and pound symbol/hashkey (#). Since some users aren't having problems, is this maybe being slowly implemented rather than site-wide all at once?

Still seems to be no way to mass edit tags. If someone finds something or hears about it coming, that'd be useful (especially if I do end up needing to change my tags with unrecognized symbols).

Bookmarklets still autosaving... I meant to write in about that but forgot. It doesn't seem to bother anyone else.

How about searching a specific account? I don't want to search everyone's links on the whole site for "carrot," I want to check [username]'s blog for "carrot." I'm getting sick of checking hundreds of results for what I need.

Oh! Not sure if this is a thing or not, I'll have to do ~further testing~ but it seems I can't sign on two accounts on the same computer anymore. I used to have one account with one browser and a different account on a different browser, but just now logging into one, I came back and was logged out of the other.
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